HONDA TLR "LO-CU-ScT" Build.

 

 Copyright,© Lee Prescott. --Lo-Cu-ScT.®

 

Look Guy's this is the bike, I only started to put together a week ago .

It was not scheduled as a build this year but ,with the ruling by the ACU  on the Sammy Miller Championships, that outlawed the "Mini Otter SCT" I decided to build a bike using a similar power plant that would be acceptably.

 

Then while I was gathering parts for the build  the ruling was amended.

 

 This means I now have all of the parts to assemble this machine, and it is looking good,with what I have.

 

The exercise will be to put a competitive little bike together for as cheap has possible, without the need to sped a fortune rebuilding a worn out twin-shock.

And a bike to ride out in a trial for fun on a Saturday afternoon in the summer, or on a Sunday morning for the rest of the year. without breaking the bank.

The machine will fit nicely into the "Specials Class" at any trial, we are not building it for anything else OK.

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Just had the forks and New brake plate arrive whilst writing this .

So On With The Build.

 

Fourth of Feb,2015

I spent a few hours at the workshop yesterday machining up the steering head sleeves to fit the Gas Gas forks into the TLR steering head, has I had received the 48.5 mm bearing in the morning from Pyramid Parts, the only place to buy these bearings at a superb price.

 

Today the rear Falcon Shocks have arrived, built to my spec in a week , absolutely first class, we are building this little bike using the  the best parts for the best price and these shocks are that in a nutshell.

I now need to build the bike into a rolling chassis, before finally deciding  where to cut the frame front down tube to fit the New engine I am using.

 

 

 

 

The whole exercise is to fit this unit without a lot of work! So if any of you want to carry out the same exercise later, it will be possible to do it without major frame changes?

 

We are working on a kit that bolts to the existing TLR frame needing one hole drilling and two small mig welds.

 It has taken me over a week to come up with the right system,

(in My Opinion)

and this should work very well indeed.

 

If this bike turns  out the way I envisage, I may decide to produce the kits for sale OK.

 

The full build sequence with pictures will follow after I have established the method of doing this job.

And a full run down of the cost to build the little bike will be a priority.

 

Sat 7th March 2015.

Its has been a long week working on the frame modification to fit the power unit of our choice into what was a standard Honda TLR frame.

Firstly I steepened the steering head angle slightly.

that was stage one in the modifications.

Stage two was to remove the lower part of the front down tube, to the length I needed, a new engine front yoke was fabricated to the spec I outlined above, this means the TLR frame is not destroyed and could be re-instated to the way it was originally without a lot of trouble.

Has I say it has taken nearly a week to get it to the way I wanted and intended.

I now have the next week to get the engine mounted into this frame without destroying the TLR engine mounts, It will be done in the simplest manner that I can devise.

Anyway here are a couple of photos for you.

And yes I have tried the engine into position and it looks fine but want to get it bolted in before putting photos of this up.

Next week hopefully and we may get to the rolling chassis stage if all goes well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

OK ,You could say, that I do nothing the easy way!!

 

But most of it is in Black and White, you always want to try something different to what anybody else is doing, If you think it is right.

 

And I have been told that "Sprockers" are the New must have breed of dog?

Well I have had "Winnie" as my best friend for the past twelve years and I know that they are right.

 

Guy's I am working hard on this project now, It just seems the right way to go ,at trying to build a cheaper alternative, to get into the "Trials Scene"

We will see if it works out?

 

 

 

 OK engine In ,the plates have taken me all week to get right ,about thirty in and outs so far. But we are getting there slowly.

 

Rolling chassis next week and exhaust system.

 

After the amount of time and effort I am putting in on this bike, to prove that there is a way of not spending a fortune on making quite a competitive little bike up, I just hope it rides as well as it is starting to look.

I still personally like the "Mini Otter" version of the "Super Cub Trials"  better at the moment, but things could change when we set up a test for both of these little bikes, with a "Named" rider on them? !

 

Lo-Cu-ScT  Build On Hold?

 

More later OK.

 

After a week of discussion on Trials Central, there at the moment seems very little point in carrying on with this build,in its present form,as the machine will only be alien to most eyes when it is finished?

I think the best way forward is to now fit a OHC Honda engine similar to the one fitted into a TLR or a engine of similar design and manufacture.

This should then allow the bike to be ridden in "Twin-shock" classes without the dispute.

The object of the exercise has again been to try and build a cheaper way into  Observed Trials,

But it does seem as there is great opposition to this idea.

Commercial interest decries that you must spend vast amounts of money on your so called Pre65 or twin-shocks, before it is excepted into the fold.

 

15/08/15.

 

Back on and having been privie to the photo below.

From you guest it Deryk Wylde  taken at the resent Dales Trial.

I now have two options but for now I am sticking with the original concept.

 

Yes this is Peter Gaunts latest creation.

 

The engine is a CG125 push-rod Honda, that has probably been increased in volume,

Some of the frame parts look like a TLM - TLR .

 

Tank and tank-seat cover are from ClassicTrial one of there EVO-units the same that we have for this project.

 

So this build has inspired me to carry on where we left off, well nearly.

But in a slightly different way, firstly the TLR frame will be made redundant, and a new lighter frame will be constructed. a bit like the "Mini" Otter frame but with a more modern approach.

I think a cross between a Trails bike and down hill mountain bike beefed up should be the way to go.and after watching the video below.this has inspired me more.

Lee is now back building cycles so this could be the right time to try something new?

 

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More later. when I have given the project more thought.

 

 

20/03/2017.

 

After today on Trials Central and the mails that I have received, I have decided to re-jig this project later in the year, when I can find time. 

 I also need the use of the cupboard under the stairs back, where the project has been sat since 2015.

So the TLR frame will be put back into its original condition and the engine from our XL185 Honda, will be rebuilt and fitted into this.

 I need the XL frame for the second Charity SideCar-e project. anyway.

 

A new frame will be constructed with the same dimensions as the Honda TLR frame.

But the top tube will be of 2" section and contain the fuel like the Super-Cub bikes.

A  rectangular section swinging arm will be made similar to the TLR,

 twin small diameter tubes will run from the steering head down and under the Zongchen engine to the cross tube that the swinging arm /footrest plate is attached too.

Simplicity again will be the keynote, with a look like a TLR frame.

A good project to do in my shed at home on wet days.

 

So the Honda Name will be dropped, on Name badges.

 

 And It will be Named a "TLR Lo-Cu-ScT" 

 

More Later.