2022...

Welcome,

Benvenuto,

Bienvenido,

Bienvenue.

To BSA "Otter".Com.

Back  to what the site was started for this year...

After the "Triumph" of  a year in 2021...

We are back to promoting the "Otter" Brand of trials bike.

For 2022...

There are still many "Otter" trials bikes in use, but there are just has many taking it easy in the back of a shed.

 Let's get them back out to join the fun this year (We hope)...

Or build up a New one...

 

 

Like this Foster B40 that Mike Smallshaw Completely rebuilt...

 

 

Or my Faber Mk2 B25 with all the Terry Weedy parts fitted...

 

 

Foster C15 G BSA Otter...

And the bike I have to put back together early this year, I know you have bikes in bits just like me...

Lets try to rebuild some this year...

I know of several New and S/H "Otter" frames still sat on benches and never yet built into a trials bike. 

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In the Beginning...

Way Back in 1962 we bought this BSA C15T, I think from Pride and Clarke in London...  For brother to ride.

It still had Scottish Six Day trial markings on the frame...

This is a tiny snap shot, but if you look the subframe has been lowered and the oil-tank modified and chrome plated. Silencer not standard and alloy LYTA tank fitted......

But it still had the C15 cast iron hubs, and it still had a chrome plated steel front mudguard, I fitted the red Metisse fibre glass one.

So this bike came out of the factory new in 1960 but had been carved up for a smaller rider to compete in the Scottish trial.. Only two years from new...

  Nothing changes does it...

 

 

Father aboard the BSA C15T in the orchard at the farm...

Note: Still got the leg warmer front exhaust pipe, and look at the dented in oil tank for leg clearance... And how about the foot-peg position well before its time...

Lights so that bruv could ride to work on it during the week...

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So Welcome to 2022...00.15...........2022

Make this year a good one...

 

01/07/2022...**

Had a week on Forks, spraying six sets of cycle forks, stripping down the Armstrong forks to rebuild for the SUN Wasp project... and forking out on a pair of forks for the Dave Yates MTB...

 

Armstrong forks for Sun Wasp...

 

A page on the trials bikes going to auction next week... with the photos of them...

 

24/06/2022...**

 

Dave Yates replica (B...Job) paint finish done, just needs clear coat...

 

 

22/06/2022...**

 

 A question was asked...

So how much is my BSA B40 Otter worth..?

 

The easiest way is to just add up the components you need to build a bike today in June 2022…

 And without a lot of minor adding up and deducting, “well I have got that”… here is the list.

Foster Otter Frame kit (powder coated ) £1,500…

B40 GB engine with Pete Kirby Clutch-Drive £2,000…

Front forks REH, £1,500…

Rear shocks (performance) £300…

Wheels, Whitton hubs alloy rims stainless spokes, sticky tyres… £700 each end,=£1400…

Tank (alloy) £400…

 Exhaust, system £200…

Alloy guards, £150…

 Bars, levers, cables, pipes, etc… £300…

 And the cost and time building the bike…

 This is just being realistic…

So how do I price my machine… 

Let’s add this up….   £7,750…. So would you let it go for under £5,000…

 

19/06/2022...**  

Sun Replica steering head machined, with the additions of roller bearing cups... to be bronzed on...

 

 

 

 

Donning  my new white paint overalls I have to recreate the paint finish on the frame below next week. But the good thing is, now being a paint sprayer again, I can make a start to paint the Sun Wasp replica fuel tank...

 

Dave Yates Diabolo...

 

Busy-Busy-Busy...

 

 

14/06/2022...**

The other job, and it is that now, is to help complete batches of the custom built Meteor Works AEsir frames for son Lee...

 So I have stepped back into my spray paint suit for a task I used to love...

 

 

Here is a bit of history about the Meteor Works and the AEsir cycle itself...

 

 

Thank's Paul Berney...

 

11/06/2022...**

Working on the Sun project while the Sun shines...

 

Copyright Bruce Main-Smith & Company...© 

 

This is the 1955-6 Sun Competition...

We are building a replica 1957 Sun Wasp trials with original Villiers 9E engine fitted to that exact model,  these were now fitted with Armstrong leading link fork like the one below... same frame as this but with 2 more inches ground clearance.... I am looking forward to the page to come... and I am writing it, and doing the build... Another trials bike model that you thought had gone to the times of history... Naaa...

 

04/06/2022...***

"We Are The Champions"...

Welcome to my Great British World...

 

02/06/2022...***

Just been cleaning a few of the Otter bikes in this extra holiday break...

 

 

 

01/06/2022...***

Is it really 70 years since I took on the role to protect British Trials Motorcycle Heritage...

 

 

Guarding the future...

June 1953... South Newington... North Oxfordshire...

~Oo>...

 

30/05/2022...**

Having a change from the BSA engines this week, I have the Triumph Cub engine parts back from Alan Whitton, so I am going to try and build that engine up this week... the update will be on the

"Faber Triumph Cub" "page...

 

 

I am just working on a page for the little known SUN competition motorcycles... There is a story behind why now... you will have to read the page when I get it done...

 

25/05/2022... **

Just been going through the pages of the site and correcting spelling? on the first ever News page.

23/03/2010...when the site went live...

I came across this post from Pat Slinn on the same day...

 and it looks as though we have corrected trials history in a small way from that time, and may have given some enjoyable reading ....

 

From Pat Slinn 23/03/2010...

Hi Charlie,

Thank you for putting together the "Otter" web site. Not only is it explaining the history of the Otter, but it reminding me, at least of some of the history of our sport. During the 60's & 70's the trials scene in the Midland centre where I lived was very vibrant and together with the many national trials and trade supported trials you could ride nearly every weekend, sometimes on a Saturday and Sunday, and Until S.H.M. joined Bultaco nearly everybody rode a British made trials bike. Many of these bikes were modified in some way or other by their owners, remember there were not the specialist trials component suppliers around then, if you needed, for example a modified pair of footrests you had to make them. If you wanted a frame with, let's say more ground clearance you modified the original frame or made a completely new one to your own design. Friends of mine, the Winwoods, Mike and Ross, remember them? were not happy with their standard BSA C15 frames so together with their dad they set to and made their own frames, known as Walwins, does anybody know where these bikes are now ?.. Remember Dennis Jones ?, (Johna), he modified a standard James trials frame ( I think), used a modified Villiers engine and called his bike, if my memory serves me correctly a D.J.S. "Dennis Jones special." Dennis used this bike and won many Midland centre, and some National events on it. I believe he was on the leader board at the SSDT.

There were many people about who were very inovative, we made mistakes, but we learnt from these mistakes, we went back to the "shed" and made another one until we got it right. These bikes with their home made, but engineered parts and components are part of our heritage and history, and should not be forgoten. I believe that the frame that Scott Ellis and his dad made has disapered, that is such a pity, that was history, our sports history. The comp shop at BSA made and modified trials frames, and suspension and I suspect that many, if not all these have now been lost. Please keep up the good work Charlie, and I am certianly looking forward to the "Express Trial" and exhibition in August.

Regards Pat...

So have we shone a little light on the scene over the twelve years of BSA Otter...

 

 

19/05/2022...**

"Gathering Nuts In May"

 

 

After checking the price of crank mainshaft nuts, From £7.50 I desided to make a batch of my own and the more I counted up, the more I needed, so although it takes about an hour to make a nut slightly less when into the rythm I still think I am in  front of the game...And I have enjoyed making them..

New pages when I stop making parts...

14/05/2022...**

Some of the parts for the latest C15 engine build have arrived after a slow delivery week because of bank holidays... 

So I spent a jolly couple of hours the other afternoon getting the 18 tooth Talon engine sprocket to fit the crankshaft. It wouldn't even start on the splines when I started, and after dressing with file, and emery cloth first, I ended up lapping it on with valve grinding paste to get the fit I wanted...Then the same with the crank nuts... Am I just fussy...

 

 

10/05/2022...**

Spirit Of the Times...

Building another story like the boys in 2017 did...

(Scooter and Sidecar around the World)...

 

GO THE DISTANCE AWARD
The Go The Distance Award is an award created by the Race Joe Barr series.
It is an award, chosen personally by Joe, for a performance that is both inspirational and full of grit, resilience and courage.
We saw many outstanding performances this year but the one that stood out was the one delivered by Matt Jones in The Joe Barr 500.
Matt came to this race with the goal of qualifying for
Race Across America but made a navigational error that would render it impossible for us to award an official time.
When we explained the situation to him and his crew roadside they accepted the error with grace and turned immediately to the one option available, which was to return to the point where the error was made, complete those miles before carrying on with the rest of the route while meeting the cut-off time.
A situation like this severely disrupts both rider and crew who are already managing multiple tasks with increasing fatigue levels. But they instantly adapted to their new race and returned to the point of error to complete the miles. Foremost was to protect the integrity of the race and the qualification for Race Across America.
Despite the obstacle and disruption, Matt delivered all 500-miles and 9000 meters of elevation in the time of 38 hours 30 mins.
When considering all that Race Across America will demand of rider and crew, this rider and crew are already equipped with the most important quality of respect for each and every mile no matter what obstacle that mile may bring.
We are so proud Matt that you qualified for Race Across America in The Joe Barr 500. It is our privilege to have been your stepping stone.
 
I second that, BSA Otter are with you all the way for the journey...Well done again team ..."Spirit Of The Times"...
 

09/05/2022...**

 

 

Busy weekend for the Crew in Ireland ...

 

 

Meteor Works steel cycles that perform...

Well done team....

 

 

Matt Jones's MeteorWorks custom built "RAAM" racer.

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02/05/2022...**

 

The Scottish Two Day Trial...

Joel Gowan number 159 riding his BSA C15 finished second and best newcomer, to my mind he should have been joint first or even won...

Brought up on motorcycles from a young age and skilled in most offroad riding, the young construction engineer is set to be one of the front runners of this and other trials for a long time. 

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30/04/2022...**

The "OOTC" (Otter on the cheap) Page as been updated with new photos  etc...

29/04/2022...**

HOW MUCH...

Being determined to get Otter bikes put together this year before I run out of time...I needed a crank for the BSA C15F engine that I have for the third New Foster frame that is in the jig...I have the rest of the engine parts, bar for one cam follower...

 I had been looking for a crank for weeks they have got few and far between it seems... but where as I used to pay between £35-50 for an Old type C15 crank I was very lucky to get  this one for £107.00 + postage... "someone else wanted it"...OK it has got a ALPHA con rod but  with victor type gears and the rest of the parts this engine is going to add up to £1,000.00 and more if I fit a Pete Kirby clutch etc.

 

 

25/04/2022..

Just doing a bit of "Home-work" and came across this "Jem", I should have found it before...

 Our Pat Slinn tells the Mike Hailwood Ducati 1978-79 TT stories the ones you can read on this Otter web site that have been on here for years.. So take a look and then read the stories later... Enjoy...

Thank you Pat...

 

 

24/04/2022...

 

The BSAOtter.com, Original Foster Otter.Now in build...

 

So the build up of the bikes for this year has begun. Three Foster Otters and the Hubbo MM bike, plus the SQ framed B25... and the John Draper replica C15... I have begun by building up sets of forks and reconditioning others with new stanchions etc... I am finding it a lot more sence, though expensive, to do the same job on each bike as I go along, now that most of the engines are built up...You will find the pages for these bikes have been updated as the build up continues.

 More new pages in the pipeline too when I get time...

 

 

10/04/2022...

I have spent the last week again working on BSA engines four C15's and a B44...

Two maybe three B25's this next week...

 

 

Getting a-head...

 

09/04/2022...

Just been taking a look at Paul's latest video. 

And kept saying to my-self, "see it is not just me"...

After watching take a look at the wheel building page...

 

 

07/04/2022...

Well someone got the "Sale Of the Century"(Remember that prog...) yesterday...

The Foster Otter below Sold for £1,955... 

This is what I said to Ian...

Morning Ian…

I missed the Otter just, brother rang me and said he had been watching and the prices were bad…
  I watched the rest and they were very up and down… But what do you expect with what is going on at the moment, all of it…
The Foster Otter was provisionally sold for £1,700 so the chap must have let it go for £1,955… Very Cheap, but how many know what a Foster Otter is Ian.. even though you and I do the work…
 The old saying “What goes-around-comes-around” seems to be what is happening at the moment… Like Arne says "The Otter will be back"… I have another frame on the Jig and building another engine…
 Take Care mate keep spending the cash… let me know how it runs …The Triumph Foster Otter...
 
Regards Charlie. 

30/03/2022...

Take a look at the updated pages 

BSA C15T trials test page..

 Alloy tanks construction page...

 And there are a lot more updated pages.. 

New ones shortly...

22/03/2022...

 

 

For Auction at H&H sale on April 6th at National Motorcycle Museum is this genuine Harry Foster Otter fitted with a BSA C15T engine in original build even down to the footrests.

I am trying to get more information from H&H about the bike... Said to have been Harry's own bike at one stage...

 So get yourself a bit of trials history and onto the Otter site...

 One for you Ian...or Ted...

 

19/03/2022...

Triumph-BSA "Four Stud forks" Page updated...

 

17/03/2022...

After watching the latest video of Mr PB doing a spot of Glass-Fibreing making a seat base for his Triumph Cub, I thought... Yes I will put that footage on, that I filmed in November the 5th 2019, Just to show it is not easy, but you learn the tricks over the years (1960-2022) and don't need the brute force that some seem to use to remove items from a mould......

 

 

Take a look I hope you enjoy, You never know you may learn a trick or two...

14/03/2022...

 

And another NEW Page Up... "Three Bultacos"...

 

13/03/2022...

 

Another NEW Page up... Yamaha MAJESTY 320...

Ex Works Mick Andrews bike...

 

12/03/2022...

 

NEW Page up... CoTTon trials Mini...

 

10/03/2022...

Last chance to buy this Proper Oil-In-Frame "Cotswold BSA"B40 GB engined bike before the owner says it gets put on eBay...

 

Email me now for owners phone number if you are interested I recon £2.500 might buy it...Sold for £2,000

 

07/03/2022...

Well with two weeks trying to get my act together building the bikes up that I have put off for years, the plans are going OK at the moment, and I have started to build up the Ex Nick Draper "Hubbo" framed BSA B25...

So there will be build photos and reports shortly...

The Foster Otter parts are ready to assemble too..

Busy Busy Busy...

But I need to cut down on my fuel bills so have started riding one of these and with a frame set being from £1500 that will last a life time, and not loose value, and also keep me fit, where can I go wrong... If you think an AEsir would suit you too, just contact me, or go to the

Velo-Atelier website...

 

 

The Meteor Works AESir... A bike for all reasons...

Several pages updated, list later...

25/02/2022...

Tom Ellis BSA's Page updated again...

24/02/2022...

Sorry Not first...

Think "Costwold" and "Mini-Otter" were there long before...

 

 

And we got No "Crowd Funding"... Jon or i...

21/02/2022..

HJH Trials Bikes Made in Wales... Page updated.. 

             

20/02/2022...

A Hard Tail to follow...

Road, Gravel, and Trials Bikes, to MTB's...

 

13/02/2022...

Tom Ellis BSA's Page Updated, and a lot more pages added too...

Paul Brodie now doing Cub gearbox sprocket window modification...

 

04/02/2022...

Take a look at this and the second video from Paul...about fitting this Cub ignition... and the £500, that Feked/Off are asking does then not seem over the top...

02/20/2022...

Sadly my Mate and Mentor passed away last week

Brian "Nobby" Clements...

 So I thought I would relate this story for his memory...

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Our first National Trial on BSA, XJO 277

Our first serious trial was the Knut National trial down in Devon.

We had an entry, but no way of transporting the Goldie outfit down to the trial.

Frank Knight, one of the stalwarts of the Banbury NOBAC club, had told "Nobby" that we could borrow his trailer, the one he had made to transport his Triumph Trophy around the local club trials.

The trailer was no more than a thick length of alloy channel from Alcan where Frank worked in the research and development  department.

Bolted to an old straight car axle from a Morris or Ford, no suspension what so ever and no spare wheel.

The draw-bar was just two plates bolted to the alloy, with  3/8” holes for a pin.

Anyway, this was the only means we had to get the bike down to the trial.

And the towing vehicle was to be Nobby’s powder blue Austin A 30 with the tiny 850 cc motor and not a lot of power.

A draw-bar was made up and fitted in the tractor workshop, an old Nissan hut, at lunch time one day, and an appropriate 3/8” bolt found as a draw-bar pin.

Somehow the old Goldie was fitted onto the trailer with the sidecar wheel overhanging the trailer nearside mudguard.

Early one damp Saturday Autumn morning we set off on the scenic route the only way to get down to the West Country in the sixties.

Every bump of the road was felt through a tug and rattle of the draw-bar pin, and Nobby was playing a fine tune going up and down the gearbox of the little car trying to keep us moving forward.

The heater in the car was best part of useless, so it was cold as well.

We eventually arrived at the wet leaf sodden car park.

I was already cold and shattered.

And we had not started the trial or even fired up XJO 277.

This was what you could say was a baptism of fire, but I was not warm all day, and my New second hand fireman boots had chaffed my legs and feet raw.

 Nobby thought he was fit, well he played a full game of football most week ends,

But the strength had been sapped from him by the third group of sections; we had had the plot on its side a couple of times by now, and looped it once.

The rain was relentless at times, but this did help a bit to keep our sweating bodies cool, but perhaps to cool in between groups.

 We made one or two good results; well we got through the end cards without a five, which was most of the sections score.

The last group of sections arrived and we seemed to get second wind, and came away from that group with three threes, and a five, grounding on a large boulder at speed.

Loading the bike back onto the trailer was a marathon task, we were cold wet and tired, with hardly any strength left.

 But we set off for home and felt we had achieved something, our first ride in a National Trial.

Then in Tetbury half way of our home run, hitting a manhole cover with the inside trailer wheel, snapped the backbone of the Alloy trailer in two.

We had to stop in the dusk of the evening to try and refit the plot onto what we had left of the trailer. 

The front wheel of the bike was moved has far as we could up to the draw-bar, which reduced the turning circle somewhat but there was no back structure left of the trailer, and what was left had to be tied to the outfit..

So every bump in the road on the rest of the way home the rear tyre of the outfit grounded down, acting like a brake, and requiring Nobby to change down to a lower gear.

Anyway we made it back to Wigginton, and were only to keen to get back out on the outfit the next weekend.

RIP "Nobby" mate...

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30/01/2022...

New Page Tom Ellis BSA's...

 

23/01/2022...

 

 

An opportunity to buy an oil  in frame "Costwold BSA" B40WD engined

trials bike that just needs finishing...Guide price- £2,700- £3000... 

Interested:  eMail me on char7748@tiscali.co.uk. and I will give you the owners phone number...More info later on Parts for Sale page.

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Just got home from a cold day in the workshop, and had a visitor...

 

 

18/01/2022...

NEW Page up...

 Cotswold Majesty Trials Bikes...

Pages updated last week...

Honda Trial bikes...

 Gearbox oil seal problems on the BSA "Dizzy to F type" Page...

Slow start to the year, we want your project builds now if you would like a page for them...

00/01/2022..

We dont want another Freeola Crash, do we...

Pages Updated with New material today...

Triumph-Greeves page.

The Jerred Honda page...

 

09/01/2022...

Well I like how it finds Grip....

06/01/2022...

"Classic Bike Parts For Sale" Page Updated...

We have a BSA Otter trials bike for sale on the "Otters for sale page"

New Listings now from the top down...on that page.

More Later...